Saturday, October 20, 2012

US liberals: If you needed heart surgery or treatment for advanced cancer what country would you want to go to

US liberals: If you needed heart surgery or treatment for advanced cancer what country would you want to go to?
for treatment since you think the US is in 37th place? That is a total BS number. Cantcu: Poor people have heart bypasses and cancer treatments etc done all over America EVERY DAY! You are ignorant or lying which is it?
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The United States. Where the best technology in the world is.
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Canada...
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is california another country?
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One that cares for the patient, rather than constantly checking his back pocket.
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Scott B. How does America have the best technology in the world when conservatives are doing they best to cut research funding and making a lot of research illegal? Even India is pulling ahead of us as far as medical technology goes.
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They would all stay in the USA but them being liberals I want to see how many lie and say France or worse Cuba! Zandakar feel free to jump on Obama's flight to Mumbai for heart surgery! People from all over the world come here for surgery, it certainlly isn't to save money!
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Germany for Cancer. France for Surgery. To get treatment at all in this country you need insurance. if you have none you don't get treated. It is called the death panels from insurance companies! And trust me, they have them. Only if they qualify for some type insurance. "The Associated Press updated 12/21/2007 6:00:05 PM ET 2007-12-21T23:00:05 GLENDALE, Calif. — The family of a 17-year-old girl who died hours after her health insurer reversed a decision and said it would pay for a liver transplant plans to sue the company, their attorney said Friday. Nataline Sarkisyan died Thursday at about 6 p.m. at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center. She had been in a vegetative state for weeks, said her mother, Hilda. Attorney Mark Geragos said he plans to ask the district attorney to press murder or manslaughter charges against Cigna HealthCare in the case. The insurer “maliciously killed her” because it did not want to bear the expense of her transplant and aftercare, Geragos said. District Attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons declined to comment on the request for murder or manslaughter charges, saying it would be inappropriate to do so until Geragos submits evidence supporting his request. The family’s “loss is immeasurable, and our thoughts and prayers are with them,” Cigna said in a news release Friday. “We deeply hope that the outpouring of concern, care and love that are being expressed for Nataline’s family help them at this time,” the company said. Nataline had been battling leukemia and received a bone marrow transplant from her brother. She developed a complication that caused her liver to fail." They do 6,000 transplants a year and have been doing them for 50 years. This is a 17 year-old who died from cancer and the death panel of Cigna denying her a transplant until she was almost dead. She DID die!
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I'd stay here as long as my insurance covered it. If you conservatives succeed in pulling the plug on health care reform, there's no guarantee that it would be covered. It could happen to you too, no matter how good your plan is. If you suddenly found yourself needing very expensive surgery ($100,000 or more) they could choose to deny payment or even drop you altogether. [edit] The only kind of care hospitals are required to provide with or without payment is emergency care. Cancer treatment doesn't fall in that category. Unless you can provide a link to a reliable source showing how uninsured poor people can get cancer treatment without paying for it out of their pockets, you're the one who's lying. If you're talking about Medicare or Medicaid, that's government-funded health care and you're defeating your own argument. The poor aren't the ones with the biggest problem with insurance. They've had Medicaid for a long time. The people who need health care reform the most are the middle class, the majority of Americans. Without health care reform, your insurance company can drop you if you have a catastrophic illness, leaving you without insurance when you need it most. Even if you don't get dropped, many plans have a lifetime maximum. What would you do if you found out you needed $500,000 worth of treatment and your policy's lifetime maximum was $100,000? I'll bet you never thought of that, and honestly I didn't give it much thought either until recently, but that's essentially a death sentence. Most people couldn't even qualify for a loan for that amount. I can tell you from my own personal experience that the reform bill will make a difference there. We just had our annual open enrollment at work, and they informed us that when the provisions of the bill take effect, we will no longer have to worry about that limit. If you don't think that's important, either you're a multimillionaire or you're sorely lacking in imagination. It doesn't even have to be cancer or a major organ transplant to be extremely expensive. My father had surgery for a prolapsed heart valve a few years ago, and it would have been over $100,000 without insurance. A hip replacement (a very common operation) costs $45,000 or more. Without insurance, that could be disastrous for all but the most successful middle class workers. How many people do you know who can take that much out of their bank accounts and still have enough to pay the bills? Health care reform isn't about charity; it's about ensuring that the majority of Americans will receive the care they need without going bankrupt.
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That depends. Am I employed and have good health care like 60% of Americans? Or, does my employer not provide health coverage, or I'm only part-time, or unemployed? If the latter, I'd be looking to Canada or even Mexico. Otherwise I'd be making funeral arrangements. Even though I'm part of the former, I'd probably have to sell my house to afford the bills. You are aware that it's actually cheaper to book a suite in a 5-star luxury hotel than it is to stay a night in the hospital, right? And something like heart surgery means I'm looking at six-figures just for the operation alone - all because I have insurance. The rest of my stay, not to mention the costs of recovery while I'll be unable to work, will easily reach another $100k+ And yes, that's with insurance.



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